Lucille Bogan's Dirty Revolution

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by Tarisai Ngangura

I’d like to believe that Lucille Bogan never had bad sex.

That this woman born in Armory, Mississippi—home of languid, sticky Summer nights, and equally humid Winters—knew what made her feel good and was unashamed to expect it. To demand it. A child of Blues and a contemporary of Ma Rainey and Bessie Smith, Bogan is an oft-forgotten but no less remarkable pioneer of the era, notable for making a name for herself as a “dirty” Blues singer. In the after hours, when bars were smoky from cigarettes and the mood hazy with strong liquor and limp inhibitions, Bogan would take the stage and sing you all the way to bed. If you wound up there alone, it was no one’s fault but your own. With Bogan on the mic, lust was inevitable, consent unnegotiable and ecstasy the end goal. I’d really like to believe she never had bad sex.

A laughable amount of articles were published following the release of “WAP,” the Cardi B-helmed anthem featuring Megan Thee Stallion. Political pundits recoiled in conservative shock and disbelief at the ways these two women rappers proclaimed their arousal. Former congressional candidate DeAnna Lorraine tweeted that the song was “disgusting” and “vile,” while GOP candidate James P. Bradley wrote “Cardi B & Megan Thee Stallion are what happens when children are raised without God and without a strong father figure.” The personal offence that listeners took to the song was comical, but also a deeply insidious policing of Black women and their right to assert pleasure, revel in expressing desire, and declare that sex is a regular part of their everyday lives. The outrage made it seem like what the artists did was new; a novel approach to creative expression aligning with the Black feminine. But in the early 19th century, Lucille Bogan was singing about sexual healing long before lyrics could be hashtagged and turned into tongue-in-cheek Instagram captions.  

It was during a 1923 stint in Atlanta that Bogan released some of her vaudeville-inspired songs, including her popular hit  “Pawn Shop Blues,”  known for being a Blues Ballad recorded beyond the genre hubs of Chicago and New York. She would be most prolific in the early 1930s, around the same time that her work became more explicit. It was then that she settled into the type of artistry that let her sing for queer folks, sex workers and the woeful, unsatisfied women. “Tricks Ain’t Walkin No More” is a somber, yet oddly charming track released just as the Great Depression was taking its hold on Americans, destabilizing the middle class and utterly devastating the already marginalized poor and Black. On the single, Bogan is the narrator—a down on her luck sex worker who can’t go about her business because the economic crisis has robbed her of her clientele and forced her to make money in less desirable ways.

“Times done got hard, money done got scarce/Stealin’ an’ robbin’ is goin to take place/ Cos tricks ain’t walkin’, tricks ain’t walkin’ no more.” She sounded desperate but resigned, ready to do what she needed to make it by, but also aware of the deeply trying times ahead. She sang like a woman who knew her world had drastically changed and she either needed to pivot quickly, or be carried away off into complete ruin. Her voice wasn’t as melodic or as powerful as the belting Ma Rainey, but there’s an ease to her delivery, a quiet assurance in her tone and a recognizable comfort with the subject matter. She didn’t sing to be scandalous, but to share what she saw, what she might have lived and what interested her about the needs of people.

B.D. Woman’s Blues,” the B.D. standing for “Bulldagger,” is the kind of hit that turns into a local legend when performed—the type of show where you can remember your location and response at first listen. When I first heard the song I was searching the Internet for archives completely unrelated to music and I came across an audio file with a photo of a Black woman with a wide, almost cheeky smile, wearing a large headwrap. Fast playing piano keys made way for the confidently stated first line: “Comin' a time, B.D. women ain't gonna need no men.” She then goes on to sing, “Oh the way they treat us is a lowdown and dirty sin/B.D. women, you sure can't understand/ B.D. women, you sure can't understand/They got a head like a sweet angel and they walk just like a natural man.” Bogan had no trouble with performing the “obscene” as seen by her turn on the Ma Rainey single, “Shave Em Dry,” proclaiming “I got nipples on my titties big as the end of my thumb/I got somethin' 'tween my legs 'll make a dead man come.” 

Bogan could be as vulgar as the best of them—”Now if fuckin' was the thing/That would take me to heaven/I'd be fuckin' in the studio/Till the clock strike eleven/Oh daddy, daddy shave 'em dry/I would fuck you baby/Honey I'd make you cry,”—hollering and screaming words that would raise eyebrows and garner smirks. She could make you squirm in your seat, for a variety of reasons. “Now your nuts hang down like a damn bell sapper/And your dick stands up like a steeple/Your goddam ass-hole stands open like a church door/And the crabs walks in like people/Ow, shit!”— but she shined best and was most disruptive when she dabbled in subtext. With a wink and a nudge, an intentional turn of phrase and a slight shift in cadence she told you something other than what she was singing. “B.D. women, they all done learnt their plan/B.D. women, they all done learnt their plan/They can lay their jive just like a natural man.” 

Again, this was Depression-era America. So while times were rough and many were forced out of their comfort zones, societal expectations still dictated that women should practice modesty, raise children and take care of the home, while making weekly appearances at church services to receive blessings and nods of approval. For Black people, a desperate need to assert humanity meant these types of respectability politics were even more severe and women carried the brunt of the suffocating weight. 

Not one for leaving out any type of “wayward behaviour” she also lent her voice to the woes of the “Whiskey Selling Woman.” Those who skirted convention and joined the sordid industry of the illegal booze trade, turning their homes into production factories and taking care of their own with prohibition green.

Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion are successors of the creative legacy that Lucille Bogan carved in stone, drenched in whiskey and laid alongside spent, sweaty, satiated bodies. Bogan made it possible for Foxy Brown, MC Lyte, Roxanne Shanté and the City Girls to come on the scene and à la Lil’ Kim squat for a photo while wearing leopard-print lingerie. She made it possible for 2 Live Crew to argue in the American Supreme Court that their explicit music was not mischief and profanity but part of a long line in African-American oral storytelling and vernacular. Bogan is the blueprint.

“buT bAck iN tHe DaY My gRanDmoTHer diDn’t Do it LiKe thAt.”

No, they did it even better and louder. 


A Conversation with Rileyy Lanez

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by Nadirah Simmons

Born and raised in The Bronx, 19-year-old Rileyy Lanez is poised and ready to take the music industry by storm. Last year she dropped “I’m Leaving,” a song about exiting a relationship that no longer serves you, whose video is nearing 8.5 million views and counting. The resulting visibility and fame have made it impossible for her to walk anywhere alone, and now venturing out into her neighborhood means getting recognized and asked for pictures. It makes her feel proud, because in her words, she says, “I’m really doing this.” And doing it she is.

Earlier this month Lanez dropped her EP Beautiful Mistakes on Columbia Records, on which she confronts the ending of a relationship, growth and self worth. For Rileyy it was important to tell stories that would relate and speak to people. She says, “I used to have followers that would text me like, ‘Rileyy, this song helped me through this relationship. Like, I was really in a bad place but now look at me. I’ve grown.’ This is really important to mention, you know? Because I know people are really probably going through that as we speak, you know?”

We spoke to the artist about releasing music and creating during a pandemic, “real R&B.” creating music in the digital age and more.


The Gumbo: Your new EP Beautiful Mistakes has been out since May 1. What have these past two weeks been like for you?
Rileyy: I mean, it’s been good because something that I’ve been working on for so long finally came out and the responses have been good. But, it’s also saddening because I can’t be out in the public, you know? I can’t promote it how I really want to promote it. Everything’s limited now.

It’s crazy. Were you nervous? Because I’m sure when you have a project you have something lined up, you have your rollout and you have a time table and you have your promo. And all of that has essentially been scrapped for everyone because of the pandemic.
I was a little nervous because, like I said, everything is limited. We really had big plans for this EP but it’s going to resume when quarantine is lifted, hopefully. (Laughs)

Now, I read your interview with DJ Booth and you described “a beautiful mistake” as the growth that comes after a bad relationship and coming out of something that wasn’t necessarily good for you as a better person. How important was it for you to talk about this on your EP?
It was really important. Sometimes when people are going through a heartbreak, they tend to lose all hope and give up. And sometimes they never really get to escape their pain and the sadness. So, when I say that there’s growth after a bad relationship, there is. People really need to know that. They need to know that.

Definitely. And you’ve cited Alicia Keys and Lauryn Hill as two of your influences. How has their music influenced your process and your sound?
[When] Alicia Keys and Lauryn Hill sing, you can feel. They sing from their hearts. And that’s really what I’m trying to bring to the table. I’m trying to sing from my heart. Yeah, you could listen to my words, you know what I’m saying? But you’re gonna feel my pain. You’re gonna feel the words that I’m singing, you know? So, I really try to bring that to the table. That’s really how they influenced me.

Have you been watching these Verzuz battles and seeing how everybody talks about them online? [A lot] of times people get so caught up in the conversation around what’s real R&B, and who’s real and who’s not. What is real R&B to you?
I feel like real R&B, it really got lost. (Laughs) It really got lost. A lot of people come around with new voices and sounds but that’s not much. Where’s the soul? Where’s the emotion? That’s what I’m trying to bring to the table. I’m trying to bring it back.

Now I know you’re from the Bronx. Born and raised?
Yes! Born and raised in the Bronx.

What’s it like for the people you grew up with and your family to see you grow into this star?
I mean, they’re really proud of me, you know? They’re really proud of me. Sometimes when I walk in the street, I get recognized. They’ll be like, “Oh my god, can I take a picture with you? I love you so much,” And it makes me feel proud of myself. I’m really doing this. People are really listening to my music. They’re definitely very proud of me and they support me 100%.

That’s awesome! Has the visibility been difficult for you at all?
Yeah. Certain places I can’t go by myself. (Laughs) I can’t do that anymore. I have to have somebody with me because people recognize me.

Does that scare you at all? You know, the bigger you get and the more music you put out that could only increase. Does that make you nervous at all?
No, that doesn’t really make me nervous.  What really does make me nervous is that I feel like I’m going to stop finding genuine people. I feel like, during a certain stage of my fame, people are just gonna want to be around me because of my money or my status. I feel like I won’t find genuine people anymore. That’s what I’m really scared of.

That’s understandable. So, I wanted to switch gears a little bit. You also used to dance. What made you decide to pursue singing as a career and do you still dance?
Of course I still dance! I love dancing. It really helped me find my voice and my passion for music and being able to create my own music. That was literally the rush I was looking for. I love dance, you know? I’ll always dance. Dance will always be in my blood but making music and being able to sing-that’s a rush and I love that feeling.

That’s awesome. Who are some people that you would like to collaborate with or work with? Whether it’s a producer or songwriter?
Ooh, it’s a lot of people. (Laughs) I want to do something with Jhene Aiko. I want to do a song with her. I want to do a song with H.E.R. I want to do a song with Daniel Caesar. I want to do a song with Trippie Redd. It’s hella diverse. Sorry, I want to work with a lot of people

No, that’s really, really good!  What does success look like for you?
That I’m stable, and healthy, happy, you know? In a good place.

That’s good. One of the last few things I want to ask you is, a young Black woman, it’s so important for other young Black women to see role models and to see people that they can look up to and have a vision of as far as success. How important is it for you to represent young Black women in a music industry like this?
It’s really important. Especially as a singer, it’s really hard for a young Black girl to get control...I guess you can say control in the music industry. Some people tend to walk over us and I’ve noticed that since I’ve been in the music industry. But, you’ve got to be headstrong. Fight for what you want. If that’s your sound, that’s what you want to do with your sound, this is what you want to do with your career, you know what I’m saying? Speak up. It’s really hard to really represent for Black women but I’m doing the best I can.

No, that’s great! I agree. It is hard.
Yeah, certain stuff I still need to learn, though. It’s a learning process too. Like, everything right now is really new to me so I’m just trying to get my head wrapped around it.

Well, look. You’ve got all the time in the world and we definitely ain’t going nowhere anytime soon so you’ve got even more time to learn whatever else it is you’ve got to. I want to know, let’s say we talk again five years from now. Where do you hope to be musically and personally?
Personally I see myself out of the hood. (Laughs) Honestly, I really wanna bring my family. I know it’s cliche to say, everybody else is saying this, but I mean this genuinely. I really want my family to get out of this place. In a better place, you know? Right now, that’s really where I see myself in five years. Just out of this place.

And what are the things that inspire you to keep going and making music? Is your family what inspires you to keep going or are there a bunch of other things, too?
Yes, definitely. I have two nephews, one niece, an older brother, a sister, and my mother. And we’re all living under the roof. They really inspire me to keep pushing. I really want the best for my family and for myself. So, they really inspire me. They help me, support me, whatever I need. They always bend over backwards for me and I appreciate it.

That’s awesome. I’m excited. Are you working on more music to come out this year, too? What else are you working on?
Yes! I’ve been writing, writing, writing this whole quarantine. Hopefully when this lifts, I can go to the studio and lay some tracks down.

Listen to Beautiful Mistakes here: https://rileyylanez.lnk.to/BeautifulMistakes


Some questions and answers have been lightly edited for clarity.

How D’Angelo’s “Untitled” Unearthed My Sexual Power Cloaked Behind Church Girl Expectations

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It’s been 20 years, and D’Angelo’s album ‘Voodoo’ still has me cast under a spell.  

By Charise Frazier 

I can’t remember if it was the click of the snare, the tingle of the hi-hat, or the robust bass line, but one afternoon in January 2000 I was lured into watching D’Angelo belt out "Untitled (How Does It Feel),” one of the biggest singles off of his sophomore effort, Voodoo. My eyes averted to his body, shirtless and showcasing his muscles and perfect brown skin. I was a 14-year-old high school freshman filled with shock and intrigue, experiencing pure lust for the first time. 

At the time, all of the adults around me invented stake in my body and virginity, causing me to weigh my worth in it. A year prior, I had symbolically married God in a vow of chastity ceremony at my church, heavily promoted by the male youth pastors and equally encouraged by the women. During the ceremony, we wore all white and were given gold wedding bands to wear on our ring fingers. I was embossed in a feeling of validation, provided by a sexist and misogynistic ceremony that assured my parents and my God that my legs would remain closed until marriage. 

I was also reckoning with the dynamics of growing up in Southern California, a place that could, and often did, strip me of any semblance of romance. To many of the Black boys around me my dark skin, African features and coarse hair removed me from the realm of courtship. Friend? Yes. But the object of affection? Not in the least. Thus, it was easy for me to run straight into the arms of chastity, because there was nothing to compromise it.

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Yet there D’Angelo stood on that particular afternoon, naked and confident in his delivery, singing a song to an unnamed woman with unbridled passion. As I watched his frame thrust against the black abyss, it felt like it was just he and I in the room. If he looked anywhere on camera, I looked too. When he stared straight on, I felt his eyes directly fixated on me. And I wasn’t alone. Friends of mine came to a similar awakening because of this video, getting as close as we could to the TV screen while the camera slowly panned south, revealing nothing but his Adonis belt. Writer Danyel Smith recalled a similar experience while watching the video at a hair salon:

“Last week, I was at the hair salon, which is always a bustle of activity, people hollering for hair dye...BET and MTV are on all day long with no one paying too much attention, but when that video came on, you could've heard a bobby pin drop. All the women just watched in silence, and when the video was over, there was a collective sigh of 'Oh my God! He is beautiful!’”

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The word “voodoo” is defined as, “a Black religious cult practiced in the Caribbean and the southern U.S. characterized by sorcery and spirit possession,” which accurately describes what happened next. I knew I had no Black ass business watching the video, but I was enamored and looked for ways to feed the beast. If there was a photo of D’Angelo in a magazine, I ripped it out and taped it to my wall. If there was an article written about him, I read it. I became possessed by some force and seemingly created an altar to D’Angelo, the source of my lust and the object of my affection. What previously felt like a feeling reserved only for the marital bed now felt both acceptable and attainable. 

The feeling was complicated for me. And I would later learn it was for him as well.

The newfound assertion of D’Angelo as a sex symbol because of the video contributed significantly to the album’s commerical performance. At the same time, the “Untitled” video was as much of a stark departure from his chaste church upbringing as it was for me. Questlove, who served as producer for Voodoo and musical director for "The Voodoo Tour," claimed that D’Angleo, as a result his sex symbol status, “...wants to get fat. He doesn’t want his braider braiding every nook and cranny of his hair. He doesn’t wanna have to have ripples in his stomach. He doesn’t want the pressure of being 'Untitled' the video.”

20 years have passed since D’Angelo gave us Voodoo. For nostalgia's sake, I listened to the album the other day as a now 34-year-old woman, reflecting on D’Angelo’s duality, as well as my own. It goes without saying that our experiences and expectations as a Black man and Black woman in the eyes of God were, and are, different. But what is true for the both of us—children of the church taught to honor and glorify God in all that we do, is that Voodoo proved to be a stark departure from the word. Within this classic body of work, he sought to reckon with sexuality, drugs, fatherhood, romance, mental health and generational curses. In Voodoo we are presented with an artist examining the origins of his beginnings, being in the world and fighting, fighting, to not be swallowed up in it. And “Untitled” for me, remains a pivotal moment in my unique, yet beautiful transition into understanding my sexual power and autonomy. “Untitled” represents the mark where I learned the power of lust—reclaiming my sexuality as something that was indeed sacred, but ratified through my own will. 

On Megan Thee Stallion And Body Acceptance

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by Fullamusu Bangura

Somewhere in the gap between sixth and seventh grade, my titties made a dramatic entry into the world, earning me the nickname “Implants” from a friend. Older boys who never talked to me suddenly became intimately familiar with the curves of my body, with childhood games turning into bra-snapping and National Grab Ass Day. Outside of the classroom, men stopped their cars to harass me and followed me down neighborhood blocks after school. Every mirror session became a site for scrutiny, with me trying to figure out how I could minimize the changes and just go back to living as my normal self. Existing in my body was a particular kind of hell and the more it developed, the more determined I became to shrink myself into invisibility. I walked with my shoulders high to my ears hoping if I raised them high enough, they would cover me entirely. My dedication extended to oversized tees and flared jeans, leading to a very serious talk with a concerned older cousin about the fact that I “dressed like a grandma.” 

I continued this disappearing act until college when the Freshman Fifteen hit and I couldn’t hide anymore. My jeans wore tighter around my hips and my guy friends started looking at me differently. That Thanksgiving break, my mom gasped when I walked in the door and urged me to go to the gym. In my seminars, I learned all the language to liberate myself but still found myself bound to my own body. Instead, I got angry. I punched boys who grabbed me at parties and was front row chanting at Take Back The Night events. It was easy for me to understand that no one had the right to claim my body but less easy to believe it. I judged myself for craving sex and convinced myself that things would be fine if I kept my number of sexual partners under some arbitrary threshold instead of just allowing myself to enjoy the freedom of college.

After graduation and somewhere in between a whirlwind year that involved psych meds, weekly therapy and dropping out of grad school, I discovered Megan Thee Stallion’s “Stalli Freestyle” and became, in a word, obsessed. While her sharp lyricism is what drew me in, I was especially fixated on her Instagram Live moments where Megan, usually in her kitchen listening to music, completely enthralled me in the joy of her own body’s movement. I watched her grin as she turned her back to the camera and clapped her cheeks at an unseen audience. And then there’s the athleticism of her live performances, personally one of the most awe-inspiring qualities of Meg’s star power. I have watched dozens of clips of Megan on stage and am always amazed by how much she trusts her body. Every time she drops it low it is with the utmost confidence that her body got her, gravity be damned. To me, it is peak self-love. The complete faith in yourself and all you have to offer. 

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Watching Megan taught me the beautiful intimacy in knowing every inch of your body, and there’s something really special about having found her when I did. In the span of my musical lineage with her I have been in my lowest points of depression, came out to my family, and explored new ways to define my romantic relationship. I gained twenty pounds and stopped starving myself under the guise of healthy eating. I started doing yoga and weightlifting. I twerked on stage with Big Freedia and wore a wire bra and thong in front of thousands of people at Notting Hill Carnival. I had lots of sex. I tattooed, pierced, and adorned my body with whatever made me feel more beautiful and more like myself. I rediscovered birthmarks and scars in the mirror, remembering the stories that formed them.

Perhaps the most humbling part of this journey into body acknowledgement is the realization that no matter how much ownership you claim of your own body, people will overstep and try to find ways to possess you. There is an eeriness to how we know nothing of our own bodies but want to claim the bodies of others, whether through fatphobia, slut-shaming, or the hyper-fixation on other’s aesthetic choices. I see this with overly aggressive men catcalling me in the streets and the audience of Megan’s shows, grabbing her body without permission or starting arguments about whether or not she has surgically altered her body. Above all, I’ve learned that human existence is so much less exhausting when a body isn’t just baggage you're carrying around. 

For the past month, I’ve been practicing my “stallion knees,” Megan’s unofficial signature dance move. Every day after work, I’ll put on music, claim any given space in my living room, lower my body closer and closer to the ground, and trust that I will make it back up again. To say I’ve mastered it would be a lie but to admit that I’ve grown to love the process of falling, getting back up, then falling again would be closer to the truth. Each time, my body feels lighter and more like an entity I have known for a lifetime. Each time, she feels freer. 

A Conversation with Georgia Anne Muldrow

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by Brooklyn R. White

Soul is all you’ve got. It’s ever knowing, ever growing, and the key to the greatest magic the heavens have to offer. It’s the delicate finger touch between the divine and humanity. The hot tear racing down your cheek, the tightest hug during the winter months, and the groove in your heart. That’s why soul music is as rich as it is, because it comes from the most central, sincere core of one’s self. And no one captures these emotional, electrifying soul experiences quite like Brainfeeder signee Georgia Anne Muldrow. 

In June 2019, Muldrow dropped VWETO II, her 18th album in 13 years. It’s a collection of funky instrumentals, perfect for late night excursions with the windows down and a windswept hair-do poking out. In this phase of her career, Muldrow is embracing herself fully, as well as welcoming the idea of taking up space, and she encourages others to do the same. 

“[T]hat’s the thing, with us being [in] production, is the taking up of space. We gotta be cool with that. Whether it be in the studio..., or you’re presenting your beats, or presenting your work, you’re taking up space…” she said over the phone. 

When we talked Muldrow was in high spirits, as she spoke to me about motherhood, the most important lesson she’s learned over the years, and more. Read our conversation below. 


Brooklyn White (BW): How has motherhood influenced your work?

Georgia Anne Muldrow (GAM): Oh, it’s everything. I love kids...It’s everything that I am, so sometimes it’s like describing water. It’s my first instinct. [Motherhood] and being in a relationship for 15 years gives me so much. One thing that [it’s for sure given me] is the sense of play in my music. Motherhood made me more funky. Cause [in] funk, you gotta have fun, it’s all about comedic singing.. To really be funky, you gotta have a sense of humor man. [Funk] is the [combining] of pain and pleasure - it’s the pain of the blues and the playfulness of children. I think that’s the secret recipe for the funk....I think kids are so hip.

BW: You moved to New York City as a teenager - what was that experience like for you? 
GAM: I was like what? 17/18 [years old] going out there...I feel as though I was still a child. What happened was, all those sounds of the street, and on the subway, you know it merged into an orchestra for me in the streets of New York. It was before I really heard nature in [that] way. [B]efore I heard the literal song of nature, you know what I’m sayin? I remember the day it happened. There was a “wooooo”, like some type of air horn or a train or something. I heard cars beeping, people talking… I heard the subway going, it was like a symphony. 

It opened my heart to what was possible. Everything was in harmony, but not a conventional harmony. But it [brought] my mind into a new way of thinking of harmony, and that was one of the elements that helped me survive New York. 

I was already in love with production and [being in New York] really made me turn to it as a spiritual place. It made me turn to music as a place of comfort. 

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BW: Are there any pertinent messages that you’ve carried with you over the past 20 years of your production career? 
GAM: I think the most important one [message] is [to] start where you are. Use it. Start with where you are, whether that’s an emotional state, or  a question in your mind...Whether it’s a “I don’t know how to begin” or “this is stupid” or “I hate how I sound” - start with that. How you actually feel, not how someone else thinks you should feel or what is marketable. It’s like a sculpture - you have to make a decision to hit the fucking rock. You gotta hit it. The first strike that you make on that piece of stone is not going to complete the sculpture. 

I mean, seriously, my whole production style is based on error. It’s based on what happens if I just free myself from what I think I should say. 

BW: Lastly, how important is feeling when you’re producing?
GAM: I say it like this - technology is only echoing what you have to give. So, whether that be a 2-inch reel, I don’t care if we analog it, because it’s still technology right? 

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BW: Yes ma’am. 
GAM: If you ain’t feeling it, how I’m gone feel it? How I’m gone believe you? I think that what you put in, you get out of it. I love feeling, it’s very important to me. To the point where I’ve been blessed to have a signature feel. From going off the rails..,going off the grid and trying to figure out where I’m coming from rhythmically. 

Feel comes from taking a chance on yourself over and over again.

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity. 

Stream VWETO II here.

Meet Ania Hoo

Ania Hoo’s EP Dandi-Tapes showcases her multidimensional sound and lyricism. At only 18 years old, the New Brunswick-bred artist takes notes from Solange and Marvin Gaye, and it’s evident in her cadence and beat selection. Listen to the project up top, and get to know more about her below.


How did your upbringing and your environment influence you being an artist?
In my household there was not just one type of music playing it can go from roots reggae to Jazz to Disco. This influenced me now because I love mixing different sounds of music. My first song was a trap beat with very melodic singing on top.

Who are some of your biggest inspirations musically?
My biggest music inspirations would have to be Marvin Gaye, Prince, and Solange.

What is your creative process like?
I really don’t know when I’m gonna write and create a song. I could write a bunch of songs at once. And then for weeks not write anything. It really depends on what inspiration hits me. Like with “Wild Child,” that was inspired by Jan Gaye, Marvin Gaye’s wife. I just read her book and then came up with those lyrics.

How do you identify, and how important is your identity when it comes to creating?
I identify as a Black women, which is very important to me. My music deals with a lot of anxiety which I feel is some times hard for black women to express so I try to express that for them through my music.

What inspires you to keep going?
Feeling so close. Also my family and  very close friends who continue to encourage me, even when I just want to give it up. I know everything has a moment, and my moment will soon be here!

Where do you see yourself in 10 years?
In 10 years I see myself with a Grammy .

On The Incomparable Quincy Jones

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by Melissa Kimble

There’s a moment occurs in the middle of the desert during the summer of 2018 that ends the debate on Quincy Jones vs. any producer out today. It’s the very first day of what is now known throughout live music history as Beychella. This is before the multi-million dollar deal with Netflix, the Adidas announcement, a long awaited surprise joint album with JAY Z, The Lion King promo, before the announcement of her husband’s billionaire status, a moment right after having the twins, hallowed into the opening sequence where the Coachella audience has no idea what to expect. The drum pattern drops. A horn section sounds off. Beyoncé Giselle Knowles-Carter appears as the center of the universe draped in regal attire. The biggest music star on the planet, the first Black woman to headline Coachella had arrived with all of her culture and all of her ancestors on her back. In 2018. If the opening alarm sounds familiar it’s because it belongs to the 1978 Black film classic, The Wiz

How is it possible that a forty year old soundtrack is still relevant and very necessary in today’s times? 

It’s because of the mind of Quincy Delight Jones Jr. Through music, he makes the impossible possible. 

“Quincy Jones isn’t simply a producer. He paved the yellow brick road full of possibility of what a producer could be,” shares Hip-Hop archivist Syreeta Gates. The Southside of Chicago born musician, composer, and producer has created across multiple lifetimes, leaving an impact on every single decade and genre. 

In her work, Gates often studies the correlation between Black music history, how it arrives to popular culture and how it is consumed in today’s digital age age. As someone who has interviewed the legend herself, Syreeta says his impact goes beyond having something that every age range can connect to: “Quincy Jones has over six decades of work that is simply unmatched. The Wiz, Michael Jackson, Frank Sanatra, ‘We Are The World’ - we are living in a world that has literally been curated by [Quincy].”

There’s a huge difference between being hot in the moment, and being an innovator. One works amazing well inside of a few summer hits, the other helps to define a body of work. In the 300+ albums that he’s worked on, Quincy didn’t just collaborate. He’s built mutually beneficial relationships with a three point impact that involves himself as an artist, the artist he’s working with, and the listeners of the world. He met Ray Charles when they were both teenagers, setting the foundation for his entire musical career - aiding in the crossover of Black music. His arrangement of "Fly Me to the Moon" with Frank Sinatra & Count Basie was the very first song played on the moon. There’s not an artist born in the 80s and on that hasn’t been inspired by his production hand on Thriller, the world’s best selling album. 

His partnerships aren’t set on Billboard numbers or accolades, they are grounded in a dedication to evolving the art form and pulling up others, breaking down barriers so that music continues to flourish. Want to bring Hip-Hop into mainstream film and television and create new career paths for Black music artists? Let’s create The Fresh Prince. Interested in recording a new era of Black music and contributing to its expansion? Here’s VIBE. There’s not a writer working in entertainment media today that wasn’t inspired by that magazine. 

What producer today can measure up to those contributions? Even if we’re talking about markers that matter in today’s times, he still has the receipts to back that up. He’s done Saturday Night Live - in fact he curated the most artists the show has ever seen at one time. He’s been awarded a national honor by President Obama. He was a fixture in the opening the Smithsonian’s long awaited National Museum of African American History and Culture. And at 86 years old Quincy Jones and his work is the gift that keeps on giving. He’s not doing it for clout or to prove a point, he’s simply doing it from his soul. And he does it relentlessly.

“I’ve been told all the time that ­something’s impossible or nobody has ever done ­anything like that before,” he told Billboard. “I’ve since realized how important it is to be ­underestimated. When you’re ­underestimated, people get out of your way. Let it be noted that throughout his career, Quincy Jones has created a way where there was no way - especially for Black artists and creatives in the entertainment industry. Because he isn’t just for the culture, he IS the culture.